Nathan Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I think the main reason why people dislike Sam is because of her getting in between Jack and Martha. And, we all know how many hardcore JnM fans are out there. I think Sam is a great character, played by a wonderful actress. She was a semi-villain with human qualities. We saw her descent to the other side and it was understandable and very realistic - GREAT STORY! Now where are these cookies I was promised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistified Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 ^^ Ooh Nathan! You're either very brave or very stupid! Did you not read the posts a couple of pages back?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayde Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 I'm a big Sam fan. I mean, she was amazing during the storyline with Johnny - not that I didn't like her before then, but I never really appreciated Jess as an amazing actress before this. I was a JM fan but I have recently been converted to a Martha-hating-Sam-loving person... May not be many of my type around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemmie23 Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 I'm a big Sam fan. I mean, she was amazing during the storyline with Johnny - not that I didn't like her before then, but I never really appreciated Jess as an amazing actress before this. I was a JM fan but I have recently been converted to a Martha-hating-Sam-loving person... May not be many of my type around. You still have Martha on profile picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayde Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 I liked the av. Just not Martha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemmie23 Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 I liked the av. Just not Martha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierced Musie Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 I have to say this, or I will stay silently bitter towards the monkeys who wrote this storyline... Sam suffered the same way as Dani did. The writers turn the characters into horrible characters because it helped put together a pairing that the fans really want. Dani was made out to be selfish because she got in the way of Kirsty & Kane and now Sam is turning into a psycho because of the much loved (blah!) Jack & Martha. The writers buckled under the love of Jack & Martha, instead of staying strong and keeping Sam. I took notice of the reactions of the episodes before seeing them myself. When I finally got to see the scenes where Sam finds Martha in her dress, then sees her at the church on her wedding day I did not see what some of you fans saw. Martha deserved everything that Sam said to her because she was willing to ruin a relationship just to satisfy her own needs. She didn't just **** off Sam, she also broke the heart of someone else. I love Sam because she is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistified Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 I have to say this, or I will stay silently bitter towards the monkeys who wrote this storyline... Sam suffered the same way as Dani did. The writers turn the characters into horrible characters because it helped put together a pairing that the fans really want. Dani was made out to be selfish because she got in the way of Kirsty & Kane and now Sam is turning into a psycho because of the much loved (blah!) Jack & Martha. The writers buckled under the love of Jack & Martha, instead of staying strong and keeping Sam. I took notice of the reactions of the episodes before seeing them myself. When I finally got to see the scenes where Sam finds Martha in her dress, then sees her at the church on her wedding day I did not see what some of you fans saw. Martha deserved everything that Sam said to her because she was willing to ruin a relationship just to satisfy her own needs. She didn't just **** off Sam, she also broke the heart of someone else. I love Sam because she is different. Hmm, must have missed that episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 I have to say this, or I will stay silently bitter towards the monkeys who wrote this storyline... Sam suffered the same way as Dani did. The writers turn the characters into horrible characters because it helped put together a pairing that the fans really want. Dani was made out to be selfish because she got in the way of Kirsty & Kane and now Sam is turning into a psycho because of the much loved (blah!) Jack & Martha. The writers buckled under the love of Jack & Martha, instead of staying strong and keeping Sam. I took notice of the reactions of the episodes before seeing them myself. When I finally got to see the scenes where Sam finds Martha in her dress, then sees her at the church on her wedding day I did not see what some of you fans saw. Martha deserved everything that Sam said to her because she was willing to ruin a relationship just to satisfy her own needs. She didn't just **** off Sam, she also broke the heart of someone else. I love Sam because she is different. I absolutely agree with you on that point. It's amazing though just how many people thought it was Sam who was being unreasonable. If anyone tried on my wedding dress like that I would be f*****g furious, but oh no, we were all supposed to feel sorry for the wonderful Martha who can do no wrong and who is so misunderstood. Misunderstood my arse, she is nothing but a selfish cow and always has been, and she drove poor Sam to do what she did as far as I am concerned. What Sam did in the end was totally wrong, but what Martha has been doing since day one is play with other peoples hearts and minds. She messed around with Jack till he did not know which way was up, walked out on the marriage after a few months because she wasn't having everything her own way, and broke Jack's heart in the process , embarked on an affair with his best freind, refused to listen when everyone told her he was bad news, same with Corey and with Cam. Jack rescued her and she still messed with his head. She broke Micheals heart, she broke Sams heart, and now she is breaking Roman's heart. That said she does have some good qualities, but they get forgotten because all we see is the selfish Martha. Sam is different, she turned her life around after her life with Shane, and Kylie Deeks became Sam Tolhurst. Sam's heartbreak was written all over her face when she saw Martha at the wedding and when she tried on the dress. No wonder the poor woman lost the plot. If that had been me and I'd seen my fiance's ex in my wedding dress I'd have decked them there and then. I think she has been one of the best guest characters for a long time and did not deserve all the hate that has been directed at her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinerLandlord Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 I have to say this, or I will stay silently bitter towards the monkeys who wrote this storyline... Sam suffered the same way as Dani did. The writers turn the characters into horrible characters because it helped put together a pairing that the fans really want. Dani was made out to be selfish because she got in the way of Kirsty & Kane and now Sam is turning into a psycho because of the much loved (blah!) Jack & Martha. The writers buckled under the love of Jack & Martha, instead of staying strong and keeping Sam. I took notice of the reactions of the episodes before seeing them myself. When I finally got to see the scenes where Sam finds Martha in her dress, then sees her at the church on her wedding day I did not see what some of you fans saw. Martha deserved everything that Sam said to her because she was willing to ruin a relationship just to satisfy her own needs. She didn't just **** off Sam, she also broke the heart of someone else. I love Sam because she is different. I absolutely agree with you on that point. It's amazing though just how many people thought it was Sam who was being unreasonable. If anyone tried on my wedding dress like that I would be f*****g furious, but oh no, we were all supposed to feel sorry for the wonderful Martha who can do no wrong and who is so misunderstood. Misunderstood my arse, she is nothing but a selfish cow and always has been, and she drove poor Sam to do what she did as far as I am concerned. What Sam did in the end was totally wrong, but what Martha has been doing since day one is play with other peoples hearts and minds. She messed around with Jack till he did not know which way was up, walked out on the marriage after a few months because she wasn't having everything her own way, and broke Jack's heart in the process , embarked on an affair with his best freind, refused to listen when everyone told her he was bad news, same with Corey and with Cam. Jack rescued her and she still messed with his head. She broke Micheals heart, she broke Sams heart, and now she is breaking Roman's heart. That said she does have some good qualities, but they get forgotten because all we see is the selfish Martha. Sam is different, she turned her life around after her life with Shane, and Kylie Deeks became Sam Tolhurst. Sam's heartbreak was written all over her face when she saw Martha at the wedding and when she tried on the dress. No wonder the poor woman lost the plot. If that had been me and I'd seen my fiance's ex in my wedding dress I'd have decked them there and then. I think she has been one of the best guest characters for a long time and did not deserve all the hate that has been directed at her. You see, the she-devil has cast some sort of spell over Summer Bay to make everyone think she is an innocent angel. By the looks of the most recent posts in the discussion for this weeks episodes, people are finaly realizing what a repulsive, vile, despicable monstrosity she really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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