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I was so impressed by Maggie’s professional attitude towards Simone, she showed her contempt, but was restrained in any other emotional reaction.


 

 
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What an absolute corker of an episode! Normally I don’t care for Ziggy but tonight I really felt for her! The story, the script, the acting....when Home and Away gets stuff right, it really gets it right. This is amazing!

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12 hours ago, D.B said:

Wait, were there cops who were serial killers on the show?! Who were they? 

Serial killer is possibly a slight exaggeration, although Corey Henderson seemed to be heading that way. But yeah, we've had "evil" cops who killed or tried to kill multiple people with less justification than Colby like George Watson (not to be confused with Georgina Watson), Dylan Carter and Ranae Turner.I'll buy that Colby's not quite in their league, but I don't think there's been anyone else worse than him!

Anyway, today.Brody really isn't making a good show of himself.He still can't take responsibility or admit he's done the wrong thing, he still thinks it's justified by what he supposedly feels for Simone.I'm buying his continued insistence that he loves her less and less.I don't know where the show's going with this, whether they're now going to portray Brody and Simone as a viable couple or not.It seems to be as simple as Brody thinking the grass is greener, getting his head turned by someone who seems more compatible with him on a surface level, and convincing himself that it's love to justify how much he's wrecking for it.Will they last the distance, or will it fall apart now it's no longer exciting sneaking around and he has to deal with reality?Time will tell, I guess.

Maggie really should have closed the door on Simone and Raffy's session: Probably when she got the call (but then we wouldn't get the money shot of her turning and giving Simone a cold "I know what you've done" look), definitely when she walked away.But otherwise she handled it well: This doesn't affect how Simone's done her work, so she's not going to sack her or anything, but they're not friends anymore.Part of me would have liked to see her lay into Simone, part of me would have liked Ziggy to whack Simone at the start when she stood there looking like butter wouldn't melt (and I still wouldn't mind).But they kept their dignity, as did Ben, and Ziggy, Maggie and Mason all got to tell Brody what an utter screw-up he's been.I don't blame Justin for keeping quiet, although I don't blame the Astonis for being annoyed he did either, but I think he's making the wrong call now keeping it from Tori and Raffy.Yes, Brody should tell them, but Brody's shown he's not very good at telling people what he should.Give him first dibs if you like, but they need to be told before they find out from someone else.

And Mason was quite right in saying both Tori and Brody have lied and got what they wanted: They'll probably be forgiven quickly, and Tori pretty much has been.I'm tempted to say Mason's played by the rules and not got anywhere...except of course he tried to go against the rules to keep Beth alive, failed and is arguably still dealing with the consequences.I wonder if that's at the heart of his anger at Brody: Brody had the life that Mason tried to have with Beth and could have had with Dempsey, and threw it away.But perhaps the lesson Mason needs to learn is that you need to know which rules you can break.Tori and Brody broke moral rules but didn't do anything that could get them fired or arrested, which is where Mason is.Saying you have to break the rules to get what you want is all well and good, but this could get him and Raffy into a much bigger heap of trouble.

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Have to admit, Justin made laugh again with his uncomfortable facial expressions when the truth came out about Brody and Simone.  I don't like the fact that he's getting flack off Mason for it (who was annoying with his whole self-righteous attitude) and by the looks of the preview probably from Ben as well.  He was in an impossible position although I do accept with Tori he did effectively force her to tell Robbo the truth about the baby but the affair is slightly different.

The scene with Maggie and Simone when Maggie got the phone call and Simone instantly knew what it was about was everything I could have hoped - The look of disgust, venom and rage on Maggie's face and Simone's look of absolute fear.  The best part was seeing Maggie having to suppress her feelings for the sake of professionalism.  I was actually expecting her to impulsively sack Simone then and there.

It will be interesting to see how this storyline progresses.  One possibility is that Brody could end up loosing Simone, which could make him relapse and start doing drugs again.

So Ben decided not to go with Maggie when she went to pickup Ziggy's stuff.  I'm looking forward to Ben and Brody's first meeting since Ben found out about the affair.  I suspect it's not going to be pretty.

Was actually a little disappointed Ziggy just walked away like that from the caravan after she discovered Brody and Simone.

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With the way Brody is behaving at the moment I'd expect if ziggy/Ben hit him or Simone he'd have them arrested as lets face it he's behaving very out of character that I wouldn't put it past him.  

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20 hours ago, c120701 said:

I was so impressed by Maggie’s professional attitude towards Simone, she showed her contempt, but was restrained in any other emotional reaction.


 

 
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You took the words right out of my mouth - that look, and if looks could kill Simone would have been a heap on the floor, said it all and Simone had been on edge since she walked into school waiting for something just like that to happen.  The cool detached way Maggie suggested to Simone answer Raffy's question was superb. Of course it had to be Raffy making it even more awkward for both Maggie and Simone. Then when Simone ran after her and Maggie said she was only to speak to her about professional matters and she was going home to see to her daughter - way to go Maggie.  Impressed too with Ben later when he said he didn't trust himself around Brody if he'd gone with Maggie to pick up Ziggy and her belongings.   May seem an odd thing to say under the circumstances but there were  lovely father and daughter moments with Ben & Ziggy, she has always been closer to Ben than Maggie.

Sophie Dillman was brilliant last night played the full gamut of emotions from utter shock and horror, hate, anger,  heartbreak, tiny piece of hope which she thought it may have just been  an one off, questioning if all the time she had spent with Brody had been a lie, back to hate and heartbreak.  Those words "I'll never be unable to see that" must have struck a chord with any man or woman who have been there for real. If Brody hadn't wimped out by saying he couldn't break the news as she was coming up to her 21st - yes she is only 20, why the surprise?  I'm more surprised a year has gone so quickly - I remember the party she had last year - of course she would have been devastated - but that would have been worlds better than finding out the way she did. No way am I defending him or Simone but neither of them would have wanted her to find out like that.  If Ziggy hadn't decided to go and give Dean a shout she wouldn't have been walking past that caravan and heard at first a couple having fun and then recognising Brody's voice she would have been none the wiser. She wouldn't have known it was Simone's van, she wouldn't have been interested.

Justin of course copped it when Ziggy asked him if her knew and the fact he didn't answer gave her the answer - yes he did.  Ditto when Mason asked him later -  like you say Slade he was in an impossible position, what would he have done and hasn't he heard the old adage about shooting the messenger? I do agree with Mason he should tell Raffy & Tori, after giving Brody just one chance to tell them himself. Raffy already knows something is wrong between Brody and Ziggy as Ryder saw the row between them, Simone had ducked out of sight when he turned round and looked at the caravan so he doesn't know it involves her. Using the excuse we don't need to stress Raffy out anymore than we have to will not wash and yes Tori is pregnant but she's an adult and isn't it better they hear it from them rather than anyone else like an angry Ben or Maggie. Also they are bound to notice Ziggy isn't living in the flat anymore and Brody is walking around with a face on him.

Two ways of looking at Simone for turning up at the school for her session with Raffy one being how could she have the bloody gall after what she has done or the other she had  a duty to Raffy to carry out so didn't want to let her down so was acting like the professional she is.

Not liking Mason's idea of using Raffy's project as a cover for making their own cannabis oil, of course it's a knee jerk reaction for all the lies that have been hidden but could end very badly, he'd lose his career before its even begun with possible jail time thrown in.

In typical soap plot Colby re-joins the police just in time for McCarthy to reveal the local cops had found Ross' watch in the back of that guy's pick up, must have fell off when they moved the body out of it.  Colby did ring Dean to ask him to ring him so he wouldn't get an unexpected call to come and pick up 'his' watch, but had to be content with leaving a message.   Dean had better not wear it though as Bella would be bound to recognise it as Ross'.

Tori and Jasmine do seem to be on more friendly terms after Tori's scare, have to admit I was holding my breath waiting to hear the baby's  heartbeat. Not back to where they were but I guess Jasmine was just relieved the baby was OK so Robbo doesn't have to find out his baby had died.

I felt sad for Alf when Martha left but then Alf gets a phone call and then decides to go on a fishing trip, such a lovely surprise for us, well I liked it,  when he met up with Martha who had decided she will take the risk of going away with him. Hope it goes well for them.

Justin looks like he is about to fess up to Leah now it's not exactly a secret anymore, Leah does know how to keep quiet and from what we saw- cough, cough -  comforts him. :blush:

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I continue to not blame Ben for being angry with Justin: I get that Justin was in an impossible place, but Ben considers him a friend so he's bound to feel betrayed.I do think Mason needs to get over it a bit as far as Justin's concerned, Brody not so much, but I'm glad Ben listened to him and understood he wasn't involved.Justin's insistence Raffy be kept in the dark become even more dubious with him blabbing to Leah.Ryder did a good job looking after Raffy at school.Simone not turning up to work means she now is letting her personal life affect things, although sacking her immediately could be counter-productive, even if it may well have set Raffy off.I kind of like that Mason was Raffy's first point of contact: Last time he had to take on the responsible adult role with the school, he seemed a bit out of his depth, but now Raffy knows she needs to pick herself up and carry on.Of course, now they've both gone down a very dubious road as a knee jerk reaction to recent events.Mason knows more about what he's doing than Ryder, but that's damning with faint praise: Again, he's medicating Raffy illegally and without really knowing what he's doing, medical degree or not.

Well, given the way we've been drip fed scenes between Leah and Justin the last few months after them previously having only a casual acquaintance at best, I think most people could guess it was going somewhere. I don't blame him at all: It did feel a bit of a leap from that awkward kiss in the garden to them being in bed, but they tried to fill in the blanks.Well, good luck to them: They're both reasonably young, free and single, and aside from Leah being left alone with Ryder yet again, they haven't got any responsibilities.

See, this is why Marilyn following the news for information on Jett was a bad idea: Now she's got some vague information without access to any official sources that could tell her what's happened to Jett and is going to be panicking.It might have been better to wait in ignorance until the army contacted her with the proper details.

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On 25/04/2019 at 00:58, Red Ranger 1 said:

Serial killer is possibly a slight exaggeration, although Corey Henderson seemed to be heading that way. But yeah, we've had "evil" cops who killed or tried to kill multiple people with less justification than Colby like George Watson (not to be confused with Georgina Watson), Dylan Carter and Ranae Turner.I'll buy that Colby's not quite in their league, but I don't think there's been anyone else worse than him!

I remember the three you mentioned above, but honestly, I can't see any real difference between Colby and them other than he's a main character (and therefore unfortunately is protected by the writers) or that he's not a woman abuser, he shows the same disrespect for the law as they did and they each involved themselves in criminal activity for their own means. So yeah, Colby has to be the worst main-character police officer that we've seen, with Kat not far behind, in my opinion. 

Meanwhile, while I do feel more sympathy for Justin than for Brody, I totally get Ben giving him the cold shoulder, though at least he was more accepting towards Mason when he realised he knew nothing about it. Also, am I the only one who found it extremely weird that literally every student other than Ryder just stood there while Raffy was having her seizure? I couldn't tell if they were frightened watching it or indifferent, but all the same, it took Ryder shouting twice to get someone to do something. I think his idea of Purple day is a good one, though unfortunately Raffy isn't that all enthusiastic about it. While I'm really enjoying Mason as a protective brother, but him going all Breaking Bad probably won't end well and might get both him and Raffy in massive trouble, particularly because I doubt he's really experienced for this kind of thing. 

Now time to address the elephant in the room... Justin and Leah. When I first the rumours about these two, I found it odd and extremely random. These two rarely had any scenes with each other until the end of last year, but you know what- I realised they actually work well together. I guess you can argue that they've been building it up for a while (very subtly), but I liked it: They're both good people, both with terrible histories of past relationships, so good for them. The only thing I'm worried about now (and I know people have already made jokes about this I know!) is the fact that the Morgans are going to have to prepare a funeral for Justin if the Leah-curse will come again! 😄

And unfortunately, we're left with a very ambiguous cliffhanger with the new's of Jett's base. I hope that he made it alright. 😧

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Aww Ryder you were brilliant there.:wub:  That seizure did came completely out of the blue, but he didn't panic, just yelled at the others to get help while keeping Raffy calm, putting her in the recovery position  and talking to her. It is worrying she had no warning this time, she put it down to her new meds. Though most of the kids do know about her seizures I'm going with the thought none of them have seen her or anyone else actually have one so were stunned and didn't know what to do. Great idea of Ryder's holding a Purple day and that after checking with Maggie it'd be possible he got Raffy's OK, more than her family do when it comes to her health.  Coco made the brave decision to let people in on her struggles with bulimia, though if I was wanting to be catty that was her choice not to eat whereas Raffy has had epilepsy thrust upon her. Coco would be right behind Raffy.  It would make people, well the school kids specifically, aware and what to do and what not to do if Raffy has a seizure and he or a teacher is not about.  I did get a glimpse of the bracelet Brody gave her so she is still wearing it. From what I heard Marilyn say to her on the phone "I'll see you tomorrow"  she wasn't going back to John and Marilyn's that evening. 

Ben is still in an angry place so no surprise he is not in the mood to forgive Justin.  I'm glad too Ben believed Mason when he said he didn't know anything about Brody and Simone who was indeed notable by her absence, from what Ryder said she was working off campus, does that mean she was working from the caravan, surely not going to do home visits? Ben as just said believed Mason will he believe  Tori when he asks her if she knew  when more than if he bumps into her thus blowing Justin's 'let's not tell her or Raffy' plan out of the water.

Now it's not quite the secret it was I'm glad Justin opened up to Leah he knows she can keep her mouth shut and he had to open up to someone.  Good advice from Leah  apart from Raffy the others are adults and able to take responsibility for themselves.  It may seem an odd pairing but they are both single, Ryder may be living with Leah alone for now but he is an adult too so doesn't need mothering all the time, oops sorry this is Leah we are talking about, she can't help herself doing just that. Had to smile at her wondering how to get out of the house without being seen then not seeming to be in too much of a hurry, though didn't she have a shift at the Diner?

Once again as when Tori was hiding Robbo there the garage at the Morgan's is being used for anything but parking a car!  I'm sure I'm not letting anything slip that hasn't already been thought of on here but it can't end well, how much trouble would Raffy be in,  it'd be Mason cooking up the stuff and who is he going to test it on, surely he won't cook up a batch, let Raffy try it and see what the outcome is, if it doesn't work, try again and again? Also what's to stop any of the other Morgan's wanting something from the garage and unlocking it?

Oh yes Marilyn having that news link on her phone, set up by Raffy I noticed so her brain is working OK in some aspects. My first thought when she said Jett had told her he'd be escorting some VIP's round Kabul that is where something would happen that they'd be targeted by some radicalists.  The base being hit is scary but she has no idea if he was there when it happened.

 

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Is it just me or is the show in a really good place at the moment?

There’s the odd character that could be improved - Mason, Jasmine... but the stories are keeping me interested and I’m liking characters I really didn’t like when they were announced or introduced - Ziggy, Dean, Martha.

I’m disappointed in Colby, I understand why he did what he did, but I hope he hands himself in - that’s probably the part of the story I like least, but I like the effects on Dean. I also like the dysfunctional family of Colby, Dean, Bella and Willow - I feel a bit like they’re almost a group of should have been foster kids that never got that chance (because Pippa left), so formed their own family.

There’s lots of nice little friendship or ‘family’ groups around the bay and people all seem more connected, there’s a lot less of the Home team and the Away team we had in previous years.

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