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Jai and Dean were both unconscious when Colby left, that was said numerous times. Colby caused the accident and left them without checking if they were OK. I can't remember once Dean saying that he told Colby to go - he would have no the reason to be angry at him. The reason why Dean forgave Colby was because he knew how important was for Colby to find Bella. Tane didn't know drugs were in the van. Drugs were hidden in panels of the van.

Bella threatened Colby on several occasions, from my memory it was when she found out and when Colby came to pick her up at the car race. Bella is aware that Ross was a bad person and that he brainwashed her in a way, but he was her dad and she loved him. We could see that from her talk with Nik at the beach after they found his body and how repulsed she was with Colby being all proud and happy that he managed to destroy all the evidence. I think the reason why she didn't report him was because he was her only family and not because she approved of what he's done.

I'm annoyed at the fact that Dean and Willow are trying to pawn off the whole situation with "Ross was a bad guy so it's OK". It can't be easy to get over the fact that your friends and boyfriend are covering up such a heinous crime. Dean knew Ziggy had trust issues as her previous two partners had cheated and lied to her, so with him keeping this massive secret he shouldn't have started the relationship if he couldn't be 100% honest (especially that he didn't want to pursue the relationship with Willow, who knew everything, for the same reason). But him having a child, and the way the whole situation is handled is also to blame for the break up.

I don't think it was mentioned in the episode, but viewers know that the Garage has got the history of being involved with stolen goods and stolen cars and that had been on the police radar before. She gave Tane an earful about putting Justin into danger. Unless Tane (who is now missing) admits the fault, it would be hard to prove that Justin didn't know anything about it. At first Ziggy chose easier option, she wanted the van gone - no van no problem. Now with Tane missing she's stuck with stolen goods and has no choice but to get rid of it. If Tane killed someone I doubt she would cover it up. She was aware that Colby and Dean were not Saints, and was OK with their past, but the murder was something she couldn't just get over. She's got every right to be angry at Dean - he witnessed the man being killed and has done nothing about it. He kept that during their entire relationship, tried to deceive her when the body was found and finally he told her when he had no choice. Not to mention that he made her an accessory to murder. Even then she didn't report Colby.

The main reason why she's covering for Tane is because of Justin. He trusted her with his business and she doesn't want to put more pressure on him. 'The Garage' has alredy been involved into few dodgy deals with Ash, Andy and Willow, going to the police would just make it worse for Justin. Not to mention there is a lot of difference between covering up stolen goods and the murder. Dean's got a lot of reasons to blame Colby for all the bad things that had happened to him, but this was not one of it. Colby couldn't help in this case. Dean might be Jai's dad biologically but he's not legally. He should've sorted this out the moment Amber told him the truth. He also shouldn't blame Colby for losing Ziggy, he started the relationship hiding this massive secret, while not wanting to renew his relationship with Willow because 'she deserves better'. Although Dean is in this position because of Colby, he should only blame himself. His blind loyalty to Colby has cost him everything.

It looks like Tai Hara doesn't know that Josh and Andy were arrested. Please see the article about him commenting on Andy and Josh's exit https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8991389/Tai-Hara-reveals-hes-open-returning-Home-Away.html

I think he was having a hard time filling in that application form because he was having 'identity crisis'. I think he was missing his old life, the one Ari didn't approve off, and wasn't really sure if he wanted to start a new job just to be on Ari's good side. He told Nik before if it wasn't for him he would've left the Bay. Ari decided that he wanted out of criminal world (not that I blame him) and expected everyone else in the family to follow him, when Tane refused Ari cut him off and told him to stay away from Nik. The reason why he was so defensive was because he wanted Ari not to assume he would go back doing dodgy deals, but Ari being Ari he brought that up. And on the top of that he was angry at Ari and Mac for blaming him for their problems. Regarding Mac, I still think she's pretty much into Tane and it will be interesting to see the way she handles the situation now that he said he was done.

I think it was only mentioned once by Jasmine, but we haven't seen them. H&A still have doctors 'in charge' of whole department, like when Alex told Jasmine off because she was having lunch with Willow at the hospital. Tbh I didn't really care, but my friend who is a nurse had real issue with it, because according to her Alex should've told Nurses Manager so that they could deal with Jasmine. But in TV shows nothing is like in the real life, and they had to have Alex and Willow meet somehow. ? Regarding Tori and Christian, tbh I don't really know, but I assume with him being the specialist he is in charge of his specialty and Tori of hers. I don't think Tori has the power to overrule Christian's decision regarding neurology or tell him what to do. But doctors consultants should just come and go, not hang around ED.

Tori is not Christian's boss, she is Head of ED and he is neurosurgeon working at Neurology Department and he just comes to ED for consultations. Funny thing is that in real life Tori wouldn't be Jasmine's boss either, because in Australia nurses and doctors are managed by different managers, but H&A likes to present it 'old way' which makes my nurses friends angry.?

But is Mac really close to Willow and Ziggy? Tbh I never got that impression. Most of their scenes/ conversations/ storylines were based around Dean, Bella and Colby. They never (not that I remember) had girly scene like Roo/Marilyn or Leah/Tori have. It was always about 'the family' - Mac trying to get back together with Colby, Willow advising Mac how to deal with Bella, all Dean's issues, etc. It's always been Willow, Dean, Colby and Bella and Ziggy lately (since she moved in with Dean). Mac never got to be part of that group even though she is Dean's sister and was Colby's girlfriend. Like when Willow celebrated promotion or Ziggy had divorce party she wasn't invited even though she was there both nights. I think the writers should make an effort to develop friendships like they used to. Maybe Mac and Ziggy will become close now that they live together, they have good chemistry. I like Mac and Ari too.

I agree that she's got flirtatious personality and that the way she says things might come out differently, but after their talk at the beach right at the beginning (where she made her position clear) she made a few questionable decisions - getting into the fight, giving him grief for sleeping with someone else, purposely trying to make Tane jealous, approaching him on multiple occasions to flirt, not to mention being called out by Bella for being jealous, being called out by Dean for the way she looked at Tane, being called out by Amber, telling Ziggy that it's disaster waiting to happen and pausing when Ari directly asked her if she wanted to be with Tane, etc. I just think you wouldn't do things like that if its just platonic relationship you're after. As I said I think she has got feeling for both of them, and liked Tane's attention, but chose Ari as he is more reliable. However now that they will spend less time together I hope this storyline will just go away. All three characters deserve better, and it's been going on in circles for months now. With Ziggy and Mac living together I don't really think it's going to be a problem to keep Colby's secret. Ziggy pretty much dumped Dean and stopped discussing it. So unless Bella or Willow move in there there is no need for it to be mentioned at the Farm house. I was a bit surprised that Mac didn't really push to find out what really happened between Ziggy and Dean, but then again she was always kept out of everything that group does even though she's Dean's sister. I'm also surprised that the Paratas and Mac are not even curious about what is going on between Bella and Colby. They spent days looking for her and Nik with literally no explanation, I mean they got some vague explanation from Nik. Now Bella left home. I would find that very suspicious especially because there is active murder investigation. I don't think Bella and Nik are ready to move in together, but I think Nik has taken the roll Colby had in Bella's life - being the one she can always rely on. She was always close with Dean and Willow, but Colby was her number 1 person and now is Nik.

I have no problem with her, or any other woman, being friendly with men while in the relationship nor I find something like that provocative, but considering that Tane is Ari's brother and that they already had a lot of issues (which she was well aware of from the beginning), she should have stayed away and put as much distance between them as possible (I don't think that would be too weird she barely talks to Nik). She was warned by her friends and family to keep him away, but she just ignored them and kept flirting even though she knew she wanted Ari. Tane is a player and if she told him off at the beginning, I doubt their attraction would develop to the point that it is awkward and difficult to be around each other. You can't choose who you are attracted to, but you can chose how to respond. Maybe she couldn't avoided him all the time, but didn't have to try and engage into conversation while he was on his own especially after he asked her for some space. It looks like she wants to be with Ari, but she doesn't want to let Tane go. Maybe she didn't intend to stay there permanently but she only started looking for another place after being told off by Tane, someone wanting to avoid awkwardness and conflict would've been eager to get out of there. I'm not saying that Tane is innocent in all this mess, but considering that Mac is the one who is in the relationship , she should've drew the line long time ago. I think that Mac and Ari work well together, and from what I've seen on social media they have got fans on their side. Tbh I'm surprised that Ari didn't suspect anything considering that few weeks ago Mac told him about her attraction to Tane. I don't think she is the character dominated by men, but I do believe that she's got more to offer then just being in love triangles. This is second love triangle in her first year on the show. I think that Ziggy and Mac living together is a good idea, however I wouldn't include Bella and Willow - last time only girls lived in that house 3 out of 4 died. ?

I think that Mac is aware of the effect she's got on Tane, but it seams that she is the one who can't stay away from him. That's why I think she is the most to blame for this whole situation. She was happy to flirt with him and lead him on for months, she should've put him back to his place at the beginning and just not engage in any banter. The fact that she was in casual relationship with Ari is not an excuse, Tane is his brother. Then instead of putting Tane in opposite shifts at Salt as soon as she admitted her attraction to him, they kept working together, then she picked the fight with Amber because of him, give him the attitude because of his one night stands and at the end she moved in with no intention of moving out (as Nik said she's got the money she could've stayed at the motel). Also there were many times when she was kissing Ari while looking how Tane would react. Who does that! And once he asked her for some space, she kept trying to engage into conversation with him every chance she's got. Maybe she can't avoid him all the time, but she didn't have to go out while he was playing the guitar and simple 'hi' at the Surf Club would be enough. She might be with Ari, but I still think she is attracted to Tane. I really liked Mac when she came to the show, but this storyline really ruined her character.

In TV Week interview Madeleine said this about Amber: "Being a good mum is everything to Amber and nothing will come between her relationship with Jai, but she wants a deep connection with someone. She wants to find someone who loves her for who she truly is- the bad-girl, single mum with a heart of gold!" So far this description doesn't suit Amber at all. She might not be bad person, but I don't believe she is nice either. I don't know why in TV shows 'tough girl' automatically needs to be rude and vile. Amber is vile and manipulative, and I'm afraid that in the next few weeks we'll get Amber with as I like to say 'behavior transplant' and the viewers will be expected to like her and get behind her and Dean's (possible) relationship.

Not really a fan either. She looks like another loud-mouth girl with a lot of issues.

According to Ari Tane was a bad guy/ troublemaker. Tbh I like him more then Ari. So far he was polite with Rider, Bella and Marilyn, no sign of any trouble. Also, he was telling Nik to listen to Ari and to go home. On the other had Ari, who was supposed to be a good guy, has got anger management issues and tries to control everything. Regarding Tane's introduction, if memory serves me right they have done the same thing with Heath Braxton. Heath and Brax came to the Bay for the party (when Brax decided to buy the restaurant) and the following few weeks the show focused more on Brax and Casey because Heth was still living in Mangrove River. Heath didn't have as many scenes as Brax and Casey.

I think that Sam got a lot of hate because of they way she's been cast on H&A, as lot of fans even people in the industry considered that as publicity stunt, and then IMO fans projected that on Kat's death story-line. Even after 18 months Jasmine is still very unpopular character on social media and I believe big part of it is because of Sam. Regarding Kat, for me she was just Charlie 2.0 (weaker version). I didn't like how weak she was all the time, how she would turn to alcohol every time things got tough, I lost count how many times she was kidnapped or beaten up, and for 3 years on the show I can't remember one time that she 'saved the day'. For someone who was career oriented I never understood her getting involved with Ash and Robbo, being prepared to risk going to jail (while pregnant) for running away with Robbo, braking the law, turning the blind eye when her love interest is in trouble, etc. So far, IMO she was the worst police officer since I've been watching the show (since 2003). I'm not some hard core feminist, but I believe if they want to have female police officers on the show they should make them bad-ass (and most importantly being able to defend themselves). Morag was not police officer (and wasn't fighting) but you wouldn't want to stand in her way.

The only hint was that Gina, John and Jett were very, very, very happy about Jett's adoption - and on H&A happiness means that the tragedy will strike soon. If memory serves me right Gina had aneurysm, and most of the time with aneurysms there are no symptoms/ signs. But as Sonia said in her exit interview Gina had to be killed off because there is no way she would leave John and Jett, it was sudden but justifiable (comparing to the most deaths on H&A that were unnecessary).

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I don't think it will, a lot of time has passed for them bring the investigation back. Storylines don't last that long on H&A. Nowadays they are focusing on Bella's behavior, Willow and Dean are OK, Chelsea is gone, so I think TPTB want us to forget about what had happened. IMO the only way to bring it up again is for Colby's exit, it would be the same as Andy's murder of Jake Pirovich - Andy killed him, they all moved on and then all of the sudden he admitted it and that was his exit.

For regular characters I'm sure there is a way for producers to get rid of them if they are unpopular or unneeded. In an interview Luke Jacobz said that TPTB cut his contract by 6 months because they introduced the Braxtons and didn't need Angelo anymore (and he was quite bitter about that, not to blame him). Catherine Mack's (Natalie) contract was cut short because she was supposed to be Brax's love interest but it didn't go down well with the fans. Also, in an interview Steve Peacock said that TPTB tend to kill off characters if the actors cause problems (I wasn't sure if that was a joke or not).

I think in about week or two. What they are showing now was filmed at the end of November - beginning of December.

I liked Ash when he came to the Bay, and his interaction with Brax, but it all went downhill as soon as Brax left. I think they introduced him trying to make Brax 2.0 but they didn't succeed. I didn't like him with Denny, I didn't like how TPTB broke up Phoebe and Kyle just to get her with Ash, and I never ever understood why they would pair him with Kat and Tori. OK, with Kat they probably wanted to make Chax 2.0 but it didn't work, and him and Tori were just big mismatch. I hated him during Luc's custody storyline but then again I hated all involved. And then it came his obsession with Robbo before and after Kat's death. At the end he was so arrogant that I had to fast forward some of his scenes...going around the Bay searching people's properties and noone stood up to him but Brodie and Tori. I was very happy when he left although I would love to see his face when he finds out Robbo and Tori are having a baby.

^ I agree. Raffy is becoming new Coco. I didn't like the way she was introduced to the show, they could've introduced her as their youngest sister who didn't know they're in the witness protection. I'm getting tired of every family in the Bay finding out they have long lost sibling (the Braxtons, the Walkers, the McGuires). What I liked about the Morgans is that IMO they had special bond considering they on the run for so long and until recently they sticked together no matter what. Nowadays I feel they all are doing their own thing, Tori is pretty much on her own, Brodie's focus is Simone, Raffy and Mason are doing their thing and Justin is the only one trying to keep them all together. The only thing they do these days is argue, it's not the same family that came to the Bay.

I agree that Steve is too respectful, that's probably one of the reasons why he was producer's favorite. He's grateful that they gave him the opportunity, but they cashed in big time with his character as well. He said many times that he doesn't get involved in his characters storylines. In a way this is good thing as writers are there to write and actors to act, but at the end of the day the actors are people who know their characters the best. I wonder if this is his honest opinion about his exit- so far I haven't heard that anyone liked Brax's exit. There were actors who were not happy with their exit yet stayed on good terms with the producers.