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  1. 5 hours ago, Red Ranger 1 said:

    I'm afraid I disagree strongly with the above comments about Mackenzie. It's almost misogynistic to suggest that a woman can't be friendly with a man other than her boyfriend without it being construed as provocative.I don't think she's done anything wrong at all and I think it's assuming a lot to say she never intended to move out of Ari's: She moved in in a hurry having exhausted all other options, and fair enough she didn't immediately start looking for another place but she didn't stay longer than what was reasonable either.Yes, she's attracted Tane and him to her, but so what? They both know where they stand.She's committed to Ari and has never pretended otherwise, he respects that.And yes, she could make more of an effort to stay away from him, but I think there's pros and cons for that one, as today's episode demonstrated.If she makes it too obvious, then it just creates tension.I don't see why being in a relationship makes her "dominated by men".And I think her and Ari work quite well together and have seen views from either side.I'm sure the social media crowd will always find an attractive young woman to hate for arbitrary reasons: Last year it was Jasmine and people complaining about her being with Robbo.

    On the specifics of today's episode: I do feel sorry for Ari but he was assuming a lot expecting Mackenzie to stick around permanently.He doesn't know about the awkwardness between her and Tane of course, although he seems to be getting suspicious by the end.Mackenzie and Ziggy living together is a good idea, so long as Mackenzie can accept being on the outside with Colby's secret.(An even better idea: Have they got a spare room for Bella? I imagine Colby's twigged she's sleeping with Nikau given how many nights she's spent at his place.)It was what Ben and Maggie suggested in the first place, more or less.

    I have no problem with her, or any other woman, being friendly with men while in the relationship nor I find something like that provocative, but considering that Tane is Ari's brother and that they already had a lot of issues (which she was well aware of from the beginning), she should have stayed away and put as much distance between them as possible (I don't think that would be too weird she barely talks to Nik). She was warned by her friends and family to keep him away, but she just ignored them and kept flirting even though she knew she wanted Ari. Tane is a player and if she told him off at the beginning, I doubt their attraction would develop to the point that it is awkward and difficult to be around each other. You can't choose who you are attracted to, but you can chose how to respond. Maybe she couldn't avoided him all the time, but didn't have to try and engage into conversation while he was on his own especially after he asked her for some space. It looks like she wants to be with Ari, but she doesn't want to let Tane go. Maybe she didn't intend to stay there permanently but she only started looking for another place after being told off by Tane, someone wanting to avoid awkwardness and conflict would've been eager to get out of there. I'm not saying that Tane is innocent in all this mess, but considering that Mac is the one who is in the relationship , she should've drew the line long time ago.

    I think that Mac and Ari work well together, and from what I've seen on social media they have got fans on their side. Tbh I'm surprised that Ari didn't suspect anything considering that few weeks ago Mac told him about her attraction to Tane. I don't think she is the character dominated by men, but I do believe that she's got more to offer then just being in love triangles. This is second love triangle in her first year on the show.

    I think that Ziggy and Mac living together is a good idea, however I wouldn't include Bella and Willow - last time only girls lived in that house 3 out of 4 died. 😬

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  2. 2 hours ago, H&Alover said:


    I don't know if Mac is aware of the effect she has on Tane every time she bumps into him, there is a small area where they just can't avoid each other, gym which is downstairs from Salt, Salt itself, beach and home.  So good decision on her part to look for somewhere else but of course Ari won't want her to leave.  Look at it this way Ari - you can look forward to having her stay over, you can stay over at her new place, adds a bit of excitement and expectation.  Wow, Tane is pretty good on that guitar he was playing.  Here's a totally out there thought why don't he, Owen and Ryder get together and form a musical trio? 


    I think that Mac is aware of the effect she's got on Tane, but it seams that she is the one who can't stay away from him. That's why I think she is the most to blame for this whole situation. She was happy to flirt with him and lead him on for months, she should've put him back to his place at the beginning and just not engage in any banter. The fact that she was in casual relationship with Ari is not an excuse, Tane is his brother. Then instead of putting Tane in opposite shifts at Salt as soon as she admitted her attraction to him, they kept working together, then she picked the fight with Amber because of him, give him the attitude because of his one night stands and at the end she moved in with no intention of moving out (as Nik said she's got the money she could've stayed at the motel). Also there were many times when she was kissing Ari while looking how Tane would react. Who does that! And once he asked her for some space, she kept trying to engage into conversation with him every chance she's got. Maybe she can't avoid him all the time, but she didn't have to go out while he was playing the guitar and simple 'hi' at the Surf Club would be enough. She might be with Ari, but I still think she is attracted to Tane. I really liked Mac when she came to the show, but this storyline really ruined her character. 

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  3. 2 hours ago, John said:

    As a matter of interest has there been any mention of Covid 19 by the cast in the show?  Do we have the interesting situation where the real world of Covid 19 hasn't intersected with the fictional world of Summer Bay.

    In an interview Lucy Addario said that they considered including Covid19 storylines, but because the show is filmed in advance they decided not to do it as they couldn't tell what's going to happen by the time episodes are aired.

  4. Tbh I don't think the cast is social distancing at all. The producers faced public backlash because on the photos taken of filming after COVID break there were H&A couples hugging and kissing. Those episodes are airing now, and I don't know about other viewers but I can't really see the difference (beside the fake beach). 

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  5. I wouldn't say that Ziggy and Dean are golden couple, but I think it's pretty close. They have pretty big fan base on FB/Instagram fan pages. I would like to see them leave the Bay together.

    I think that that Christian and Tori have potential of becoming popular couple (judging by fan comments online), so I would like them to stay together. I like Leah and Justin, but it will end when James leaves the show (if not before).

    Nik and Bella are good together, but teenage couples never last long. IMO Mac doesn't suit neither Ari nor Tane, so I would like to see her with someone new, or single for a while. 


  6. In TV Week interview Madeleine said this about Amber: "Being a good mum is everything to Amber and nothing will come between her relationship with Jai, but she wants a deep connection with someone. She wants to find someone who loves her for who she truly is- the bad-girl, single mum with a heart of gold!"

    So far this description doesn't suit Amber at all. She might not be bad person, but I don't believe she is nice either. I don't know why in TV shows 'tough girl' automatically needs to be rude and vile. Amber is vile and manipulative, and I'm afraid that in the next few weeks we'll get Amber with as I like to say 'behavior transplant' and the viewers will be expected to like her and get behind her and Dean's (possible) relationship. 


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  7. In my opinion TPTB have made the same mistake with the Paratas as that had in the past with the Braxtons - after 9 months on the show they still are not part of the community. While the Braxtons were on the show there were two shows, the Braxton's show and H&A. 

    First of all I am annoyed that Gemma was only the guest character. Even though I think if she stayed she would be side kick character (like Mason to the Morgans and Oscar to the MacGuires), but she would still be the voice of the reason and one that puts everyone back to their place. I believe that they will try and make Mac (of all people) the matriarch of the family which will be just awful (IMO Bianca was never really the right fit for the Braxtons). 

    I'm also annoyed that they missed the opportunity to develop Marilyn and Gemma's friendship. While Gemma and Nik were living with Marilyn they didn't really have a lot of scenes together and most of the time the Parates looked terrified (I know it's because of John, but still). Marilyn was only 2 times at the Paratas house (at the hangi and the night before Gemma left). It's shame because Marilyn could have the same relationship with them as she's got with the Morgans. Speaking of the Morgans, I think that Ari should really hang out with Justin (so that Justin doesn't have to hang out with John and Alf all the time). 

    Also, Ari and Dean were best friends in jail, but Dean was at the Parata's house for the first time only recently? Seriously? I understand that Ari didn't want people to know that he was in jail, but it's been a while now since he came to the Bay. Not to mention that he is dating Dean's sister. 

    Tane should be hanging out with Dean, Willow, Ziggy even Colby, but they continue to put him in this endless love triangle. Nik has only got Bella and Ryder, even if TPTB don't want to introduce high school kids, they can still introduce some new characters their age.

    The bottom line is that currently the Paratas are only really connected to Mac, Ryder and Bella. 

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  8. According to Ari Tane was a bad guy/ troublemaker. Tbh I like him more then Ari. So far he was polite with Rider, Bella and Marilyn, no sign of any trouble. Also, he was telling Nik to listen to Ari and to go home. On the other had Ari, who was supposed to be a good guy, has got anger management issues and tries to control everything.

    Regarding Tane's introduction, if memory serves me right they have done the same thing with Heath Braxton. Heath and Brax came to the Bay for the party (when Brax decided to buy the restaurant) and the following few weeks the show focused more on Brax and Casey because Heth was still living in Mangrove River. Heath didn't have as many scenes as Brax and Casey.

  9. On 02/08/2019 at 18:23, D.B said:

    I was never really invested in Romeo and Indi. 

    I had my ups and downs with Brax, and usually I liked him, but I was rather disappointed when Ricky chose him over Nate, after Brax abandoned her. 


    I agree. I do think Ricky and Brax were more suited than Brax and Charlie, but every single time he put Ricky second..... and then he faked his death and left her. Tbh I never thought that Nate and Ricky were good together, but he was always there for her. I think the moment Ricky got pregnant it was obvious that her and Brax would be end game couple, and they needed the storyline to fill out remaining time of Bonnie's contract, so TPTB got her and Nate together (and had their H&A annual wedding), but we all knew it wouldn't last.  

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  10. I think that Sam got a lot of hate because of they way she's been cast on H&A, as lot of fans even people in the industry considered that as publicity stunt, and then IMO fans projected that on Kat's death story-line. Even after 18 months Jasmine is still very unpopular character on social media and I believe big part of it is because of Sam. 

    Regarding Kat, for me she was just Charlie 2.0 (weaker version).

    I didn't like how weak she was all the time, how she would turn to alcohol every time things got tough, I lost count how many times she was kidnapped or beaten up, and for 3 years on the show I can't remember one time that she 'saved the day'. For someone who was career oriented I never understood her getting involved with Ash and Robbo, being prepared to risk going to jail (while pregnant) for running away with Robbo, braking the law, turning the blind eye when her love interest is in trouble, etc. So far, IMO she was the worst police officer since I've been watching the show (since 2003). I'm not some hard core feminist, but I believe if they want to have female police officers on the show they should make them bad-ass (and most importantly being able to defend themselves). Morag was not police officer (and wasn't fighting) but you wouldn't want to stand in her way. 

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  11. I never understood why would Brax choose to back up Kyle, Ricky and Josh over Casey. He always put Casey first and even though they were manipulated by Danny, Andy and Adam, it was completely out of character for him to bring them to live with the Braxtons.    

    I liked Amanda Vale - I think that H&A needs more villains like her.  

    I find Romeo, Hannah, Denny and Oscar's deaths unnecessary. 

    I don't like how they need to have the wedding every season and then have short lived marriages. 

    I don't understand why would Kat and Tori be with someone like Ash. I also don't understand why would Bianca be with someone like Heath. 

    I'm tired of IVF storyline. So far it has been predictable, and as Robbo and Tori will most likely end up together, we don't really need all this additional drama. They should've just focused on fertility issues in this storyline and not love triangle.  

    I don't like how they don't take disabilities and health issues seriously. 

    I don't like how they brought old character back (i.e. Will, Kane, Sally, Chloe) just to have them destroyed.

     I liked Tory and Rachel more than Tony and Beth and Rachel and Kim.

    I find it odd that Mason only had one serious love interest (Beth) since he came to the show. 


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  12. 3 hours ago, project90 said:

    Been watching the births, deaths and marriages episode on the 7 plus website.  Just watched Gina's death episode for the first time seemed random was there any hints in previous episodes it was coming?

    The only hint was that Gina, John and Jett were very, very, very happy about Jett's adoption - and on H&A happiness means that the tragedy will strike soon. If memory serves me right Gina had aneurysm, and most of the time with aneurysms there are no symptoms/ signs. But as Sonia said in her exit interview Gina had to be killed off because there is no way she would leave John and Jett, it was sudden but justifiable (comparing to the most deaths on H&A that were unnecessary). 

  13. 3 hours ago, Lunar said:

    I wonder too as they haven't mentioned the investigation in ages or even really shown much of the police department. Surely something will have to come up eventually?

    I don't think it will, a lot of time has passed for them bring the investigation back. Storylines don't last that long on H&A. Nowadays they are focusing on Bella's behavior, Willow and Dean are OK, Chelsea is gone, so I think TPTB want us to forget about what had happened. IMO the only way to bring it up again is for Colby's exit, it would be the same as Andy's murder of Jake Pirovich - Andy killed him, they all moved on and then all of the sudden he admitted it and that was his exit. 

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  14. 23 hours ago, baywatcher said:

    Does anyone else find it strange that a guest character can be brought in for anything between one and three months but would have still stopped filming before viewers actually see them and producers can gauge their popularity (or lack of).  I guess they can be brought back if viewers like them.

    Same goes for signing permanent cast up for 3 years from the get go.  It's an awfully long time to be stuck with someone if they turn out to me unpopular.  Is there a get-out clause?

    I'm interested in the mechanics of how these things work.

    For regular characters I'm sure there is a way for producers to get rid of them if they are unpopular or unneeded. In an interview Luke Jacobz said that TPTB cut his contract by 6 months because they introduced the Braxtons and didn't need Angelo anymore (and he was quite bitter about that, not to blame him). Catherine Mack's (Natalie) contract was cut short because she was supposed to be Brax's love interest but it didn't go down well with the fans. Also, in an interview Steve Peacock said that TPTB tend to kill off characters if the actors cause problems (I wasn't sure if that was a joke or not). 

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  15. I liked Ash when he came to the Bay, and his interaction with Brax, but it all went downhill as soon as Brax left. I think they introduced him trying to make Brax 2.0 but they didn't succeed. I didn't like him with Denny, I didn't like how TPTB broke up Phoebe and Kyle just to get her with Ash, and I never ever understood why they would pair him with Kat and Tori. OK, with Kat they probably wanted to make Chax 2.0 but it didn't work, and him and Tori were just big mismatch. I hated him during Luc's custody storyline but then again I hated all involved. And then it came his obsession with Robbo before and after Kat's death. At the end he was so arrogant that I had to fast forward some of his scenes...going around the Bay searching people's properties and noone stood up to him but Brodie and Tori. I was very happy when he left although I would love to see his face when he finds out Robbo and Tori are having a baby. 

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  16. ^ I agree. Raffy is becoming new Coco. I didn't like the way she was introduced to the show, they could've introduced her as their youngest sister who didn't know they're in the witness protection. I'm getting tired of every family in the Bay finding out they have long lost sibling (the Braxtons, the Walkers, the McGuires). What I liked about the Morgans is that IMO they had special bond considering they on the run for so long and until recently they sticked together no matter what. Nowadays I feel they all are doing their own thing, Tori is pretty much on her own, Brodie's focus is Simone, Raffy and Mason are doing their thing and Justin is the only one trying to keep them all together. The only thing they do these days is argue, it's not the same family that came to the Bay. 

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  17. I agree that Steve is too respectful, that's probably one of the reasons why he was producer's favorite. He's grateful that they gave him the opportunity, but they cashed in big time with his character as well. He said many times that he doesn't get involved in his characters storylines. In a way this is good thing as writers are there to write and actors to act, but at the end of the day the actors are people who know their characters the best. I wonder if this is his honest opinion about his exit- so far I haven't heard that anyone liked Brax's exit. There were actors who were not happy with their exit yet stayed on good terms with the producers.

  18. Vinne probably won't get mentioned again. I think they will turn VJ into the new bad boy. Matt Little has signed to play VJ for the next two years

    So basically when he leaves there won't be VJ on the show. They should've taken someone to play him part time like Felix used to. He was born in 2001, so he's supposed to be 13 (even though he is 15-16 now), so in two years he's supposed to be 15 - where can he go on his own at that age? Unless they kill him off. They've made Pippa terminally ill after all.

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